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Smarty · Oct 15, 2010, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Yay: the light armour (great coat and shoes *drool*), fiery dragon sword (huzzah!), wayward wand (one of my favourite wand skins), Legend of the Mists, GWAMM being recognised.

Meh: the whole PvP/PvE title thing (which ones fall in which category, and the distinction between the two in the first place).

Want: As A Boy I Spent Much Time In These Lands (fantastic idea FengShuiDove

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Anon-e-mouse · Oct 15, 2010, 11:22 AM // 11:22

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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse

Question, do we HAVE to sear a toon to put Eternal Defender of Ascalon in the HoM? As I'd really rather keep my pre-sear toon RIGHT where it is thanks.

So after 2 days and *13* replies to this thread by Anet CM's, this question is STILL unanswered 3 days after posting.

/sigh

distilledwill · Oct 15, 2010, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse

So after 2 days and *13* replies to this thread by Anet CM's, this question is STILL unanswered 3 days after posting.

/sigh

Unfortunately, I can't see any other way to get it into your HoM - maybe wait till you are ready to switch to GW2, get your pre character to EotN and put it in, relog so it counts in your calculator and then move to GW2 (like a final farewell - he FINALLY made it out of pre).

Silverblad3 · Oct 15, 2010, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by fortior

Yeah just remove the 'massive' if you can't comprehend overstatements. Point is, you expect rewards specially for hardcore players from a company that is known to cater to the casual horde (and face it, why code rewards only a handful of people will see anyway).

The reward is the title. The HoM reward is a bonus. Why get all riled up about some reskin of a weapon? You had your golden age in GW1, just start anew. No need to carry over everything, might as well just play GW1 then.

I know some hardcore players want to be able to say "Oh this thingy? Yeah, I got it by playing GW1 a lot!" to random new players asking about your Eternal Sword you got for getting LDoA but it's a lot of effort and bullcrap for basically nothing. You want cool stuff in GW2? Go get cool stuff.

I understand where you coming from, all valid points.

However, Anet had clearly said 'your achievements' will be recognised in GW2, go play and have fun with the HOM. However, what they should have said was 'some of your achievements maybe recognised in GW2'. More recently they have said it will please hardcore players too....

Recognition and rewards are two different things, we are not talking about the coolness of titles in GW1, but recognising achievements that anet said would take place for 'your achievements'.

In terms of coding for a handful of people, it would really not be any different then the trophies they did in GToB for GvG. Done for a handful of people that many could see.

I am not asking for cool stuff, I earned everything I got, if I intend to get GW2 or any other game I will do the same. The point is, if Anets says we will do X then do X, not Y. No need for people to waste time on something that was communicated to happen which only partly happens.

The other point is the relative points/contribution to the HoM GW2 Calculator, there is no difference from an achiement that takes 4 hours (sorrows furnace) compared to running 10,000 chests (100s of hours). However, they make a point of changing that for Obsidian armor (which also happens to be in my opinion the worst armor sets in the game). Consistency in making rewards fair would go a long way as well.

Anyway, do I care? Not really just putting my view across. Do I want them to do something about it? No I dont expect Anet to come through, their CR, Management and Updates has been shocking. Even the calculations used in HOM is unfair to players who did the 'time'. These players really want to enjoy their experience especially as we move towards the last stages of GW with the friends they have made in the community and even better if they all decide to go to GW2 together, rather then feeling bitter and not trusting what Anet says.

Sorry rant over, I am so going to love Costume Brawl!

Silver

Dreikki · Oct 15, 2010, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Silverblad3

I mean LDOA pointless title, but so many folks spend months doing this and it will mean absolutely nothing in terms of that title compared to getting one of the other achievements for the hom. Luckily I put that one off so I dont have to endure it.

You have no hellaRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idea how I feel right now.

Basically all the time I spent is equivalent to Tyrian Protector or whatsoever.

Godefridus · Oct 15, 2010, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Dreikki

Basically all the time I spent is equivalent to Tyrian Protector or whatsoever.

Sorry, but LDoA was a title that initially ANet themselves didn't come up with, but later created it to reward the geniousity and dedication of the pre-searing players who managed to come up with a method to achieve rank 20 in pre-searing. Whereas all the other titles were intentionally created by A-Net.

As a LDoA myself I know that it is quite a bit of work to achieve this title. But I also realise that the title in GW1 in itself is already more recognition by A-Net than they originally intended. So I don't expect to get yet another special treatment compared to other GW players in addition to that already special recognition. Besides... no weight is given to the time required for any of the statues. If they would discriminate between LDoA and Protector of Tyria, then they would also have to do so between Protector of Tyria and Protector of Cantha, and so on. And in the end people would still argue about the weights given to each title.

Also ANet stated in the early days of the HoM that the HoM would be our link to GW2. So why should they come with a particular statement on the title LDoA when their message has been clearly communicated from the early days of the HoM? The only thing that has changed is that they now informed us about the rewards that you get in GW2 in return for what you put in the HoM.

But of course everyone is free to ask for a special treatment, just don't expect to much from it.

Mordakai · Oct 15, 2010, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by Godefridus

If they would discriminate between LDoA and Protector of Tyria, then they would also have to do so between Protector of Tyria and Protector of Cantha, and so on. And in the end people would still argue about the weights given to each title.

Or Vanquishing.

Or Skill Hunter.

The thing is, LDoA is not technically "hard" to get (ie, it's not difficult, anyone can do it, and it doesn't cost any money or consumables).

It just takes a LONG, LONG, time. Which is why I never finished it... but Kudos to those that did, and isn't that it's own reward?

People who accomplished any specific title for an imagined reward in GW2 were wasting their time. I personally wish I hadn't dedicated all those minis... I would have made a lot of money... on the other hand, I don't have to buy a lot of minis, soooooo....

Just be happy with what you have. None of it really matters anyway...

Ghost Dog · Oct 15, 2010, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja

I originally liked the HoM because the initial system of adding titles encouraged you to try/experience different parts of the game you were skeptic about, these HoM guides feel like more of a job than casually getting gwamm over the years.

I always considered the HoM a way to help move dedicated players from gw1 to gw2, but after seeing the rewards die off at 30/50 I see no incentive/reason to move to gw2.

Then you're not even playing for game play, just colored polygons.

Tons of games out there for you.

Ninja Ninja · Oct 15, 2010, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog

Then you're not even playing for game play, just colored polygons.

Tons of games out there for you.

I'm just not getting into anets tradition of making a game and scraping it every 5 years and its funny you talk about colored polygons when graphics are the only appealing factor of gw2 softcore nature.

Babaroga · Oct 18, 2010, 08:45 AM // 08:45

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Originally Posted by Aba

Very odd.
Some of these items are just extremely odd to have as a reward...
Orrian Baby Chicken that is awesome I look forward to stuff like that....
But Fellblade, icebreaker, Stygian reaver????
Noty, dont gimme stuff that take years to sell in GW one let alone as a reward for GW2..:P

They are called HERITAGE items for a reason. Think of it, your toon in GW1 busted his ass to obtain a Fellblade, and after his time, h left it to a new her in his family to wield it with great honor (therefeore ur gw2 toon). Those rare items in gw1 make alot of sense to be gieven free in gw2 if u think about it... And it's not like there will be Fellblade drop anywhere in gw2 anyhow

Anon-e-mouse · Oct 18, 2010, 09:40 AM // 09:40

You'd be really really really really lucky to do LDoA in under 250 hours, which is about the time it would take to do Legendary Vanquisher (~110 zones @ 2 hours per zone).

And even GrandMaster Treasure Hunter could be done in under 350 hours... mind you, you'd be really sick of Boreal Station.

So Community Manager's do you have an answer yet? or is the clock going to keep counting?

The forth fly · Oct 18, 2010, 12:36 PM // 12:36

LDOA is nothing more than a afk title,you think you deserve more for going afk for 10 hours ? no

Silverblad3 · Oct 18, 2010, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by The forth fly

LDOA is nothing more than a afk title,you think you deserve more for going afk for 10 hours ? no

So is Unlucky/Lucky titles. It was ANET who decided to put in 'hardcore' titles and rewards players for this in GW1 and be recognised in Gw2 (joke).

Regardless of whether you think it should be rewared or not, ANET has made the decision to reward it, and said achievements and 'hardcore' players would like it. *cough* Yes well.....

Again, saying it because it makes me feel better, all the hardcore titles are absolutely pointless and not recognised compared to easily attainable achievements like SF, UW, FOW. Nor as ANET said would the hardcore players be happy with it, it is not the case, maybe for many hardcore players, maybe for some and maybe for the 2-3 hardcore players they asked who actually do not play anymore and use GW1 as a chat system.

Over 9 titles are not required for the Honor Monument to max it, how does this recognise the achievements of the player for GW2? It does not.

Silver

Dzjudz · Oct 18, 2010, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse

You'd be really really really really lucky to do LDoA in under 250 hours, which is about the time it would take to do Legendary Vanquisher (~110 zones @ 2 hours per zone).

And even GrandMaster Treasure Hunter could be done in under 350 hours... mind you, you'd be really sick of Boreal Station.

So Community Manager's do you have an answer yet? or is the clock going to keep counting?

How about you don't put LDoA in your HoM? It's not like you need it for 50/50 and you won't get anything special for putting it in.

Mordakai · Oct 18, 2010, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Again, saying it because it makes me feel better, all the hardcore titles are absolutely pointless and not recognised compared to easily attainable achievements like SF, UW, FOW. Nor as ANET said would the hardcore players be happy with it, it is not the case, maybe for many hardcore players, maybe for some and maybe for the 2-3 hardcore players they asked who actually do not play anymore and use GW1 as a chat system.

Over 9 titles are not required for the Honor Monument to max it, how does this recognise the achievements of the player for GW2? It does not.

Silver

SF, UW and FOW are three titles. If you want more points than that, you HAVE to get a harder title.

We can argue all day about what Titles are harder... but unless you have millions of gold, LDOA is comparably an "easy" title if you are trying to get as many points as you can.

I'd much rather work on it, than say some of the PvP titles.

Silverblad3 · Oct 18, 2010, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

SF, UW and FOW are three titles. If you want more points than that, you HAVE to get a harder title.

We can argue all day about what Titles are harder... but unless you have millions of gold, LDOA is comparably an "easy" title if you are trying to get as many points as you can.

I'd much rather work on it, than say some of the PvP titles.

Actually, I have all but 3 achievements that I can obtain left for my honor monument. The issue is that I could have got here without having to work on 9 other achievements (you know the really grindy titles, cash sinks and time consuming ones) or titles as they are 'redundant' in the calculation towards the HoM Honor GW2 calculation.

Silver

mage767 · Oct 18, 2010, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Silverblad3

So is Unlucky/Lucky titles. It was ANET who decided to put in 'hardcore' titles and rewards players for this in GW1 and be recognised in Gw2 (joke).

Actually, lucky/unlucky can ALSO be maxed by chest-running. In fact, those who max these use a combination of AFK + chest-running. The proportion varies from player to player. Those who have been in the game for a long time, missed no events and played 9-rings may have maxed these titles by AFK as you say. But those who are new can max these today by simple chest-running, which maxes treasure hunter title as well.

Unlike lucky/unlucky, LDoA offers no other mechanisms to max other than death-leveling for a long long time in pre-searing. If people got the time to do it, well, good for them. I personally don't care since I have got other titles to substitute it. Remember, LDoA is NOT a mandatory title.

Showtime · Feb 23, 2011, 03:39 PM // 15:39

I'm 90% done with hall and noticed Eternal Skillz... I have all 3 (4) skills titles. What is Eternal Skillz and how do I get it. Thx.

Edit: Oh it's the gamer title...

Random Scrubinator · Feb 24, 2011, 05:51 AM // 05:51

I'm the most obsessive guild wars player I know in my offline life, and I only just hit 30/50. I'd assume that even at the 30/50 cutoff, less than 20% of the GW2 population is going to have all the items, which still gives some bragging rights to them

Belle Dwayna · Feb 24, 2011, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Got a PKM in pre and i think it's legitimate for those like me who take many hours to do titles in pre and doesn't want to lose everythink on pre, to ask to anet a way to put LDoA in HoM with out leaving pre.